I think I might have found my new favorite show. I love nothing more than ladies talkin’ about bein’ ladies (check out my blog title for proof), and that’s exactly what The Conversation is. Host/Photographer/Wife/Mom/Superwoman Amanda de Cadenet interviews women about topics that are actually interesting. She doesn’t ask them about whatever movie they’re working on or fluff like that. Instead, she talks to Jane Fonda about feeling whole without a man, or to Gwyneth Paltrow about postpartum depression, or to Sarah Silverman about the importance of female camaraderie, or to Zoe Saldana about the decision to have children. This is the show for you if you miss Oprah but also you wish Oprah was more down to Earth. Amanda de Cadenet is smart, funny, and delightful, even if she doesn’t hide gifts under her studio audience’s chairs (or have a studio audience).
This show is amazing because, unlike other women’s shows with similar titles (The View, The Talk), it actually focuses on real conversations between women about their lives. Not the “She can do it all, and so can you!” pseudo-inspirational bullshit we’ve come to expect from our magazines and television shows, but actual real lives. It is reassuring for me to realize that Gwyneth Paltrow doesn’t have all of her shit together all the time, or that Jane Fonda is still working some things out at 70. That’s real life!
Also you learn that Jane Fonda’s fake knee makes certain sex positions uncomfortable. The more you know!
Watch the first episode of The Conversation here! If you’ve seen it, let me know what you think!
B, I love you so much. I mean, so much. More than most people I know. I would love you even more if you would just use the F word. You know the one: feminism. When asked if you were a feminist, you said:
“I don’t really feel that it’s necessary to define it. It’s just something that’s kind of natural for me, and I feel like…you know…it’s, like, what I live for.”
The latter part of that is all well and good. I’m glad that you’re just living your life as a natural born feminist. You do you. But the whole “I don’t want to define it” thing is tired, like a guy that doesn’t want to “put a label on things” by saying the girl he’s been in a monogamous relationship with for 7 months is his girlfriend. Labeling things is kind of the point of language, and as long as you’re still performing at concerts in Egypt where your costumes and choreography are protested, then it actually is necessary to define it. As long as women still earn 77 percent of what men earn, then it is very necessary. We aren’t living in a post-feminist society, B! We should be so lucky.
I will just briefly touch on your statement on Gwyneth Paltrow:
“She pushes her boundaries all the time. She is what I strive to be one day.”
Hardly! I love Crazy Gwyneth as much as the next girl who reads too many self-help books, but really? You’re the one pushing boundaries. When’s the last time Gwyneth Paltrow created an alter-ego, or surprised schoolchildren in Harlem, or sounded like this? That’s what I thought.
Anyway, B, all is forgiven as long as you keep saying “algebuh.” Just for future reference, you really don’t ever need to ask, “Y’all mind if I sing to y’all for one second?” The answer is always going to be yes.